Dis-invest-a-lujah!

Ever wonder what it feels like to be really honest?





We've been taking murdered mountain top mud into Chase banks all over the country for the last few weeks, now we take the murdered mountain mud into the minds of the people deep inside those banks -- WITNESS  the disinvestment in this brand new video from the Mountain Loving Faithful at the Church of Stop Shopping.

These Chase employees are clearly troubled by the news that their "conscious" and "sustainablity minded" company blows up mountains to pay their salary. We imagine there are many more like them inside Chase.

We invite you to disinvest with us, share your story, take pictures, make a video, and remember to tell Chase WHY you are leaving.

Lets Stop MountainTop Removal!


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We are all sinners, children....



We know that we must disinvest from JP Morgan Chase, but where do we go? Well, we're throwing the question to our congregation! Which local banks do you recommend? What have your experiences been closing your accounts with big banks like Chase? The conversation continues right here on our forums! AMEN!

Sister Dahlia has begun with this info from a banking friend:
> 1. Please please please think twice about listing New York Community Bank (or its subsidiaries: Queens County Savings Bank, Roosevelt Savings Bank, Richmond County Savings Bank, and Roslyn Savings Bank). Although it has the word "community" in its name, it is *notorious* in the affordable housing world for predatory lending on multifamily housing and, more importantly, to be the least responsive than all other banks to working with building owners to rectify abysmal housing conditions for tenants. (Ironically, one of the most responsive banks on the overleveraged multfamily housing issue is actually Chase, which has a pretty robust Community Development division in NYC.)

> 2. Please think about listing Shorebank (http://www.shorebankcorp.com/bins/site/templates/splash.asp). Although they're based in Illinois, and therefore are only good for savings accounts & CDs, their whole thing is mission-driven investing. One of the few (only?) banks that explicitly do that.

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Brennan Cavanaugh:
FOR THOSE WITH RESIDENCES OR BUSINESSES IN THE EAST VILLAGE OR HARLEM

The Lower East Side People's Credit Union
Two branches:
Ave. B and 3rd St.
ACPJr. Blvd (7th Ave) and 123 St.

Been in business for almost 25 years, keeping $ in the community
checking/savings/money market/business accounts

https://lespeoples.org/

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Sister Dahlia:
Still undecided . . . but enjoying this process! Here's some more for y'all:

I've emailed Brooklyn credit union to find out if they do syndicated lending, which means their funds go through big banks like Chase anyway. The financial and annual reports on their website wouldn't open for me.

More info from my friend:

Here's a local one that looks like they do most of their own lending
(ie, don't just do syndicate lending with the big banks). I know them
from the affordable housing world, and looks like that's basically their
bread and butter, with minimal syndicate lending.

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Sylver Pondolfino:
anewwayforward.org has tips on how to close your account and links to credit unions and community banks. it's an organizing web site promoting the break-up of the big banks. but with the syndication issue, it looks like it'll take a bit of research on each bank to feel safe.

 Continue the conversation below...

The Lower East Side People's Credit Union

After over 20 years with Chase I moved to The Lower East Side People's Credit Union last month. It does take less time for a check to clear, and there are less ATM ( most are in McDonalds) but the feeling was extremely rewarding. My reason was the bank was just TOO big. _ joseph

MOVE YOUR MONEY

moveyourmoney.info has a great tool on their site to search for community banks and credit unions.

Here's the link: http://moveyourmoney.info/find-a-bank

Chase and Bank of America

i closed my account with chase 18 mos. ago for ethical reasons.

now have to close my checking acct. with bank of america.   they bought out a smaller bank i patronized.  harder job this time since i have direct deposits and withdrawals established at b of a.

i will avoid those in the future, esp. if i move the checking acct. to the small local bank i moved my chase account to.   i'm afraid in this economy it may be bought out, too. 

should have gone to a credit union when i left chase.

Community Development Credit Unions in New York City and more

Just wanted to support the post of Brennan Cavanaugh who suggested The Lower East Side People's Credit Union for New York city folk to open accounts after leaving Chase.  This credit union is what is known as a community development credit union (CDCU).  CDCUs specifically and pointedly serve low (and moderate but mostly low) income neighborhoods. There are 9 other CDCUs in New York city and here is a link to a list of them.  http://www.cdcu.coop/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1536

Dig a little on the sites below and you will have a good chance of finding a bank or a credit union whose main mission is to serve low-income and underserved communities, not to just maximize profit.

The website for the National Federation of Community Development Credit Unions that includes the 10 credit unions in the previous paragraph is www.natfed.org . If you live outside NYC you might be able to find a CDCU near you.  Ask some questions to see if any credit union has the services you need before you join.  These CDCUs really need deposits so if one does work for you, your money is really needed and will have significan positive impact.  Santa Cruz Community Credit Union mentioned in another post is also a CDCU.

And for banks, look for a CDFI (Community Development Financial Institution) bank.  The Treasury Dept. certifies that a CDFI bank works predominantly in low income areas. A list that includes CDFI banks across the nation can be found using this link.  http://www.cdfifund.gov/docs/certification/cdfi/CDFIbyOrgType.pdf
Shorebank, Shorebank Pacific and Community Bank of the Bay who have been mentioned in other posts are all CDFI banks and do great work.

The Treasury Dept. also certifies credit unions. Many CDCUs (but not all) mentioned above are also certified CDFI credit unions.

Socially Responsible Banks

 I had accounts with Shorebank Pacific (the Washington branch) for 6 years and their Salmon Nation Credit Card. Each time I used the card a small portion would go to help sustain the Salmon Runs in the Northwest, ironically though, they still only send out paper statements (no online statements available). Hmmm. Also, they outsourced their technical support department to India. I have differing opinions about that, but in general, that is not considered supportive to the local community. When atttempting to notify Shorebank of these issues with their credit card issuer, I received little response. Despite these misgivings, I would still bank with Shorebank over a megabank because they do invest in local sustainable businesses. 

For 2 years I have banked with Community Bank of the Bay in Oakland, CA. Ever since the day Chase bought out WaMu, when I went in and closed my accounts (I knew that JPMorgan Chase was a nogooder..) Anyway, I am very happy with Community Bank of the Bay. They are FDIC insured and support local green businesses through their Bay Area Green Fund.
www.communitybankbay.com/index.html

Lastly, isn't it funny that a bank with a reputation for predatory lending is called "Chase"?

I'm quitting them!

I started accounts at Chase recently because it was the closest bank in our new 'hood, but as soon as I'm done my class work (I teach), I'm going to withdraw and open accounts either at Amalgamated (which I use to be in when I first moved to the city 30 years ago) or at a community savings place....Feel a bit uncertain about those but will research it. Thanks to the woman who mentioned anewway....
And thanks to the Rev for bringing the mountaintop issue to me. I didn't like Chase before then, but this sort of pushed me over the edge.

Chase Bank.

Chase bank has sent me several offers to open a credit card with them as of late. I have saved the return postage paid envelopes and instead of a credit app. I have returned a letter about how disgusted I am with them as mountain top serial killers and they will never have a dime of mine.

Ellen Scott Grable

 Great info! I'm closing my

 Great info! I'm closing my account with them.

Credit Union or Community Bank in Jersey City?

I quick glance doesn't reveal much in Jersey City.  Hudson City Bancorp is on the bigger side-- but they didn't take TARP money becuase they didn't get sucked into the sub-prime feeding frenzy.  They also report some of the highest moeny market rates in the nation.  Does anybody bank with them?  Feedback?

Going Local in Kentucky

Let me recommend King Southern--and, no, I'm not affiliated with this bank in any way except I like the name ; ) Plus it's a local bank with locations in Louisville, Bloomfield and Chaplin, Ky. http://kingsouthernbank.com/

Praise for Credit Unions from Facebook:

Michael Ulrich says: I've been a member of a credit union since 2004, and I can't say enough great things about it. I don't understand why anyone would use a bank.

America Conley: I worked for a credit union, and can't believe anyone still uses banks. Even the term credit union, a non-profit financial institution, should give it away. My credit union's board members are all volunteers- unlike the overpaid CEOs of the big banks.

Laura Bucaro: We bank at a local credit union also. We just went to them to refi our house. They are great. They listen to what you want and don't overloan more than you can afford. And they get paid enough to stay in business. That's all. They also offer fixed rate credit cards with very modest limits so you can't overspend. No gimmicks or lies. The money stays local and they give back to the community.

Matthew Bessell says: Credit union allujiah!

Jennifer Lynch says: Farmers and Merchants Bank in Long Beach, CA. Family owned since 1907. Highest reserve-to-deposit ratio in the U.S. www.fmb.com

Jennifer Waggoner: I've been lazy since my back was merged with someone horrible. This might finally inspire me to change it.

Kaci Bee says: Credit Unions!!!

Anne Laurie: credit unions are the way to go -- free of 'Directors' and 'Presidents'.

Rhonda Callison: Ditto...credit union for 21 years now and never had a problem. However my credit card is with a bank but i pay it in full so they never get a dime !!! L O L

credit unions/co-ops

I know credit unions are non-profit, but the politics of the board still matter. I wish someone would look at Credit Union 1 in Chicago and help us figure out if that's a good option for banking and mortgages for progressives.

Also, the co-operative model can lead to communites owning several properties outright.  No Chase bank profits. Community stability.

Lastly, I think that we need to educate ourselves and others about the politics of our money. Many people are activists who have mortgages and credit cards with Chase. We need help figuring out how to switch banks. Many of us have great credit but wouldn't qualify for new mortgages. How can we switch banks? Could a progressive bank target Chase mortgage customers and help us refinance with them? help!


In Southern California

Farmers and Merchants Bank, based in Long Beach, California is a family-owned bank since 1907. They keep a much higher reserve-to-deposit ratio than most banks in the United States. This means when you deposit $100, typical banks loan out most of it. Banks are required to keep anywhere from zero to 10% (depending on different variables). The higher the reserve, the "safer" the bank. Farmers and Merchants holds anywhere from 16-26% in reserve of deposits. Their website is: www.fmb.com

From Facebook:

Matt Hairfield says: I heard great things about credit unions, but I've no first-hand experience

Diane Lizbeth Johnson says: I use a local credit union in Oregon, and the interest rate on CC stays fixed @ 9.9% and my money stays local. Very happy with the arrangement and service.

For California

The Santa Cruz Community Credit Union is the best bank in the world. It balances practicality with community lending, lavender Visa cards with a very careful overdraft policy. It can be tricky to get an account there, since their aim is to serve the local area, but I'll bet they know about lots of good other sister credit unions. In San Francisco I think people like the Firemen's Credit Union. I used to bank at Patelco, the telephone employees' credit union, and it was OK.

Amalgamated

I've banked at Amalgamated for 30 years. They don't have a lot of branches but they do belong to a system of ATMs that makes it possible to find one near you to use without a fee. For a checking account you have to pay for the paper checks but there are no other fees. I don't know about relationships they might have with other banks.

Amalgamated -- America's Labor Bank

Founded in 1923 by the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America, Amalgamated Bank serves working-class consumers, trade unions, and businesses through about 15 branches in and around New York City, as well as locations in California, New Jersey, and Washington, DC...

Amalgamated Bank of New York once opened its vault on a Saturday in order to provide $300,000 in bail for pickets arrested the night before. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People received $800,000 to post a cash bond within 24 hours. In 1973, bank officials worked all weekend to come up with bail checks so that striking Philadelphia teachers could stay out of jail. 

Out of debt with Chase!

I recently paid down all the debt on my Chase credit card and it feels goooood! I chopped it up and cancelled the account. Hopefully I'll soon be able to ditch all ym credit cards for good!

As far as banks go, I strongly recommend Amalgamated Bank. They look like a big-box but are actually very community based. Started by UNITE HERE and other Unions in the 20's. Good stuff all around.

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